{"id":1153,"date":"2014-08-08T07:03:50","date_gmt":"2014-08-08T13:03:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/markniwot.com\/?p=1153"},"modified":"2014-08-08T07:03:50","modified_gmt":"2014-08-08T13:03:50","slug":"what-fellowship-have-torah-observant-believers-with-xtianity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/markniwot.com\/?p=1153","title":{"rendered":"What fellowship have Torah-observant Believers with Xtianity?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Recently a friend, who is still not QUITE convinced about all aspects of trying to walk in obedience to &#8220;Torah as Written,&#8221;\u00a0 asked me a somewhat blunt question:\u00a0 &#8220;Why are you so <i><b>hard <\/b><\/i>on the evangelical church?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s probably true.\u00a0 I often refer to paganized &#8220;holi-days&#8221; like <i>Ishtar sun-god day<\/i> and <i>Xmas<\/i> when I am teaching on the Sabbath, or observe that there are many verses in the &#8220;New Testament&#8221; which are all-too-often twisted.\u00a0 Romans 13, of course, and there&#8217;s &#8220;Peter&#8217;s Dream&#8221; in Acts 10, which does NOT prove that &#8220;Jesus Christ died on the cross so we can all now eat ham sandwiches,&#8221; as well as the four &#8220;necessary but not sufficient conditions&#8221; from Acts 15:20-21, and literally scores of others.\u00a0 &#8220;Not all Christian denominations,&#8221; I was reminded, teach the lie that the &#8220;law was nailed to the cross.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>And that&#8217;s a good point.\u00a0 I certainly try not to lump all Christian denominations into the basket I tend to call &#8220;Xtianity.&#8221;\u00a0 Some are starting to return to at least acknowledging that the Feasts of YHVH might still have something to teach us.\u00a0 Some are questioning the pervasive &#8220;Rapture Cult&#8221; message that we&#8217;re going to get beamed out of here before anything REALLY bad can happen.\u00a0 (Perhaps, though, because it&#8217;s getting harder to deny that bad things ARE happening already!) \u00a0 Quite a few more are beginning to examine prophecy &#8212; even &#8220;Old Testament&#8221; prophecy &#8212; as ask questions like, &#8220;are we entering the <i>End Times<\/i>?&#8221;\u00a0\u00a0 (Although, in fairness, many have been predicting dates on that score for centuries, too.)<\/p>\n<p>But the vast majority of the licensed, tax-exempt, 501c(3), &#8220;Caesar-created faith-based corporate institutions of <i>another <\/i>god,&#8221; still tend to ignore far too much of what the Messiah they claim to acknowledge as &#8220;Lord&#8221; said.\u00a0 Things like that He would not change ANY of His instruction (torah) so long as heaven and earth still exist, or that &#8220;many&#8221; who practice torah-less-ness would come to hear Him say, <i>&#8220;depart from Me, you who practice iniquity, I never knew you.&#8221; <\/i><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Fine,&#8221; I heard in response.\u00a0 But the subsequent exchange boiled down pretty much to a reminder that, &#8220;you can catch more flies with honey,&#8221; than vinegar.\u00a0 And that leads me to the real point of this article.\u00a0 When we talk with people, particularly friends and loved ones, whom we KNOW, one-on-one &#8212; we must of course be sensitive to individual concerns, and engage in a discussion, where, hopefully, &#8220;iron sharpens iron.&#8221;\u00a0 The value of personal discussion is just that &#8212; listening, quoting Scripture, responding to concerns, or misunderstandings, even prejudices, in a productive way.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But when it comes to a teaching in front of a fellowship gathering, or on the radio, or even in an article like this, things are a bit different.\u00a0 While people can, and do, respond with questions or comments, the audience is often more &#8220;general.&#8221;\u00a0 It usually includes people who ARE searching for more, and have come to realize that we have all, <i>&#8220;inherited lies from our fathers.&#8221;\u00a0\u00a0 <\/i>And &#8212; here is the real issue &#8212; there comes a time, warns Scripture repeatedly, when we must ACT:\u00a0 to &#8220;blow the shofar,&#8221; because we recognize there&#8217;s a &#8220;sword coming upon the land,&#8221; or &#8220;come out of her,&#8221; because we can likewise see the plagues at hand.\u00a0 And, ultimately, those who fail to &#8220;<i>know the times and the seasons<\/i>,&#8221; will end up being &#8220;<i>without excuse<\/i>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Why am I often so hard on the evangelical &#8216;church&#8217;?\u00a0 For the same reason that Eliyahu (Elijah) was.\u00a0 And Jeremiah, and Ezekiel, and Isaiah.\u00a0 And Moses was.\u00a0 And Yahushua was.\u00a0 Because it&#8217;s a matter of literally &#8220;life and death,&#8221; or blessing and cursing, and time draws short.\u00a0 Many WILL die.\u00a0 And many ARE being &#8220;led astray&#8221; by wolves masquerading as shepherds.<\/p>\n<p>Shaul, or Paul, put it this way.\u00a0 (2 Cor. 6:14-17) &#8220;&#8230;what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?&#8221;\u00a0 Just exactly who is he talking about being &#8220;unequally yoked&#8221; with?<\/p>\n<p>The answer can be found in the repeated prohibition of <b><i>mixing<\/i><\/b>: of the clean and the unclean; of the qadosh, or &#8220;holy&#8221;, and the profane; and even of things like wool and linen garments, crops in a field, or different types of animals to a plow.\u00a0 Most importantly, we are not to mix the worship of YHVH with the types of things pagans did &#8212; and still do! &#8212;\u00a0 for their false &#8220;gods.&#8221;\u00a0 From the infamous golden calf, to Baal, and Molech, and Ishtar\/Astaroth\/Astarte\/Easter, to Xmas trees, the winter solstice, Mithras&#8217; December 25th birthday, and Halloween, to mix what our Creator specifies that He wants with pagan traditions is not only expressly forbidden, but called &#8220;abomination.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Shaul&#8217;s Second letter to the people of Corinth still seeking to &#8220;come out of&#8221; paganism goes on to make it so clear &#8212; IF we can rid ourselves of the &#8220;Xtian baggage&#8221; we often still carry:<\/p>\n<p><i>And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols?<\/i><br \/>\n<i>for <b>ye are the temple of the living Elohim&#8230;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/b><\/i>(Are we really, if we commit idolatry before Him?)<\/p>\n<p><i><b>Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith YHVH, and touch not the unclean <\/b><\/i><i><b><em>thing<\/em><\/b><\/i><i><b>; and I will receive you&#8230;&#8221;<\/b><\/i><\/p>\n<p>Ultimately, if we are to do as he sought to do, to &#8220;<i>speak boldly, as I ought to speak<\/i>,&#8221; then we must confront idolatry, EVEN within the &#8216;evangelical church,&#8217; exactly as Scripture confirms.\u00a0 And perhaps ESPECIALLY with &#8216;the church&#8217;!\u00a0 The last lines of Deuteronomy chapter 7 are unequivocal.\u00a0 We are not even to &#8220;bring an abomination into [our] house!&#8221;\u00a0 And the reason why is equally clear&#8230;&#8221;<i>lest [we] be a cursed thing like<\/i>&#8221; those idols He abhors.<\/p>\n<p>If we love Him (John 14:15), He says we should keep His commands.\u00a0 And if we love our brothers, we&#8217;ll speak His truth boldly.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Even if it sounds hard.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Why are you so hard on &#8216;xtianity&#8217;? <a href=\"https:\/\/markniwot.com\/?p=1153\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[19,5,74,11],"tags":[213,63,123,94,77,212,122],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/markniwot.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1153"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/markniwot.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/markniwot.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/markniwot.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/markniwot.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1153"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/markniwot.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1153\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1154,"href":"https:\/\/markniwot.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1153\/revisions\/1154"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/markniwot.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1153"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/markniwot.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1153"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/markniwot.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1153"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}